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Well, what about a thread that suggest new platforms ?
I thought about that one (Pippin) : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pippin As it seems it doesn't appear on UVL. I also thought about that one (Amstrad GX4000) : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GX4000 But cartridge that run on this platform also run on Amstrad CPC 464+ and Amstrad CPC 6128+, so games are already listed on "Amstrad CPC"... And what about that one (Epoch Cassette Vision in Japan, Yeno Super Cassette Vision in Europe - this platform seems to have been released only in Japan in 1981 and France in 1984) : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_Cassette_Vision www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=2&c=792 darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/epoch.htm www.silicium.org/console/yeno_scv.htm (french webpage on the Super Cassette Vision, which lists every game made on both platforms) And the last one (Microvision) : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microvision www.handheldmuseum.com/MB/uVUS.htm Just in time! :-)
Here is the list of platforms I was building too: APF IMAGINATION MACHINE en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APF_Imagination_Machine ACTION MAX (VHS shooting - Worlds of Wonder Entertainment) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Max Super Vision 8000 (Bandai) darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/supervision.htm Casio PV-1000 (Casio) darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/pv1000.htm My Vision (Nichibutsu ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Vision If someone else has his own hardware list, please contribute! note: Those urls are now real links, isn't it cool? ;-) Eight new platforms added!
Now we are counting 138! Action Max APF Casio PV 1000 Epoch Cassette Vision Microvision My Vision Pippin Supervision 8000 138 platforms, that's great.
And real links, that's great too :) I began to add games on "Cassette Vision", but the problem is that I didn't find any informations about the japanese release dates, only the European ones. So I marked a "?" on the year and added comments on games : "Released in 1984 in Europe" or "Released in 1985 in Europe". Is it good or should I indicate the year in the "year column" ? Or shoud I indicate no year nor comment ? You can use the year you have.
I do the same even for more recent platforms, as soon as I know the first release date I update it. OK, that's done.
But I still can't delete the comments I already made for these games... I suggest another new platform(s) : Thomson MO5 / MO6 / TO7 / TO8 / TO9 www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/9723/thomson.html www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=12 www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=238 I found this platform because I was looking for informations about "Dieux du Stade" (missing screenshot for the Amstrad CPC...), and it seems that this game don't exist on CPC but on Thomson TO8. I have found many sites referencing this game on TO8 but only one site referencing this game on CPC (with no informations : no release date, no publisher, etc...). Then I noticed that Thomson's machines don't appear on UVL. I'm working on two new fileds: generation (i.e. PS3 is 7th) and units sold, so I've casually found some other platform:
Coleco Telstar en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Telstar APF TV Fun en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APF_TV_Fun (looks different from the other APF I've added. I've to investigate) Epoch Game Pocket Computer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_Game_Pocket_Computer Andrea for generations check this page if you havent already
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computer_and_video_games Super Micro / Super Micro PVS Super Micro / Super Micro PVS released in 1983. Holds a unique place in history as being the fist color handheld with interchangeable cartridges (I think). the cartridges where unusual in that they not only held the game's chips but where also the game's LCD display (kind of like a dreamcast VMU). The cartidge/LCD was plugged on the front of the Super Micro. The back-light in the unit would shine through color filters on the back of the LCD thus the monochrome LCDs would appear to be in color to the player (sort of like the Pong and Space Invaders coin-ops with their colored tape on the screen). The pack-in game was Aladdin's Adventures: Published 1983 Palmtex Inc. Developed by Home-Computer Software Inc. Dan Shafer (Design/cenario) Chuck Blanchard (Programming) Aladdin's Adventures was also available as a separate purchase, which suggests the Super Micro could be purchased without a pack-in game or with pack-in game(s) other than Aladdin's Adventures. Games know to exist: React Attack (I own the box only) Aladdin's Adventures Outflank Games planned but unconfirmed to have been released: Crystals of Morga Mayday Mine Field Spellbound Star Trooper Hi Zerothis, this is all I have found in "the site that anyone search about anything":
Palmtex released the Home-Computer Software Super Micro Cartridge System. Only three games were made for it. I urge to add this as soon as possible :-) New platforms again :
Thomson MO5 (At least 204 games) Thomson MO6 (At least 8 games) Thomson TO7 / TO7-70 (At least 130 games) Thomson TO8 / TO8D (At least 222 games) All Thomson platforms Gizmondo (At least 14 games) Thanks. I didn't know these systems, but I just realized that the MO6 was sold in Italy under another name, Olivetti Prodest PC-128. I remember the commercials in some magazines... :-) RDI Halcyon by RDI Video Systems.
The first home laser disc system. Promised to bring arcade laser disc games into the home without sacrificing quality. A similar idea to the Neo-Geo system. It was released January 1985, but sold poorly do to the fact that it cost $2,500 for a complete system. But if you already owned a compatible laser disc player (LD-700, VP-1000, LD-1100) then you only needed $1700 for the main unit, headset with mic, keyboard and the pack-in game, Thayer's Quest. The microphone on the headset was used for voice recognition that was built in to the unit along with voice synthesis and an AI. It came with a 1000 word vocabulary (spoken and recognized) and thanks to the AI players could teach it additional words. The first task was to teach it players' names so it could recognize and speak to individuals. It would also keep track players' progress. NFL Football was available at launch, no other games were published. Thayer's Quest was a special edition of sorts. Containing many scenes that were not completed for the arcade release. NFL Football was a two disc game that used video from real football games. Disc 1 was Raiders vs Chargers and disc 2 Dallas vs Redskins The rest of the games were only available as prototypes: Orpheus Shadow of the Stars Voyage to the New World The Spirit of the Whittier Mansion was of the horror genre and doesn't seem to be intended for children. The player that came with the complete set played all the usual formats (movies, video, audio disc) Two new platforms from VTech, exclusively for young children :
V.Smile, and a games list from the official website (and the V.Smile Pocket). V.Flash, and a games list from the official website. Seems that V.Flash is called V.Smile Pro in France, I don't know about other countries. Difficult to find the release date, this website tells March, 12th 2004, I haven't found any other informations about the date. Found another platform : Mattel Aquarius
wikipedia Old-Computers another link Found about 20 games running on it. Thanks !
Release date for Mega LD : The Pioneer CLD-A100 system was released in Japan on August 20, 1993 at a cost of ¥89,800 and in the United States on September 13, 1993 at a cost of $970 US. Vtech has been in the console business quite a while.
1981 Vtech CreatiVision (Dick Smith Wizzard, FunVision Computer Video Games System, Hanimex Rameses, Cheryco CreatiVision) This is one of the few game system released in the African market. 1988 Vtech Socrates. All of the known games are currently tagged and listed as CreatiVision games. 199? Vtech V.Smile 2007 Vtech V.Smile (2007 edition) ???? Vtech V.Smile Baby ???? Vtech V.Smile Pocket ???? Vtech V.Flash 2007 Vtech Nitro (new) V.SMile Pocket has the same games as V.Smile (like Megadrive & Nomad for example). I'm not sure but I think that V.Smile Baby has four games inside when you buy it, then you can't buy additional games. Name: EXL100
Company: Exelvision Country: France Year: 1984 RAM: 32Ko VRAM + 2Ko SRAM ROM: 4 Ko Resolution: 320x250x8 colors CPU: TMS 7041 and TMS 7020 (8 bits, 4.91MHz) Sound: TMS5520 It seems that around 150 cassettes and cartridges have been released for this machine but most of them are educational non-games, so there may be around 50-75 games available. Some links : oldbytes.free.fr/pages/exl100.html www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=123 I have removed the remainingThomson platforms and added the EXL100.
Couldn't find much on the Vtech Nitro btw... V.Tech Nitro is a grayscale LCD laptop computer for $30. I have been unable to find out any more than that and V.Tech is much better at specifying buzzwords than specs. Although they backup their buzzwords a lot better than the majority of other game system manufactures. As soon as one arrives in the local radioshack I'll be all over the manual (should take about 9 years for one to arrive, due to the high-tech mandate of the State of Jefferson :)
EDIT: 64x48x2 LCD (black & white) Stereo, It Speaks (it speaks A LOT) Proprietary mouse, RJ45 plug Built-in directional pad with push-to-click It comes with 78 built-in games It takes cartridges also, each game and cartridge is numbered cartridge, 79 Story Time cartridge, 80 Sing-Along I have removed the remaining Thomson platforms and added the EXL100.
You can also remove the multiple-Thomson platform while doing an advanced game search. Another new platform...
GameKing by TimeTop, 2003. EDIT : And anoher one again... Super A'Can by FunTech, 1995. There is a series of portable media players called JXD. The JXD 301 is probably the most famous. Its marketed as a gaming device. But all the JXDs can play games. The interface looks very similar to the GP2X. BBC Micro and Acorn Electron are quite compatible each other (stairwaytohell.com) so I was thinking to merge the two platforms. Tapware Zodiac
Based on Palm OS 5, but has several exclusive games for it that won't run on regular Palm OS. Check the "Zodiac exclusive games" section for better explanation. Not new, but note that X-Box and X-Box 360 should be Xbox and Xbox 360. And Playstation still needs to be fixed to be PlayStation.
X-Box is misspelling of the name, and if you go to xbox.com you see it's even there, and I don't think you have any valid point against their judgement how the name should be :) HP-41. Built-in 63 RAM, HP-41 CPU HP-41C ("HP Coconut"). Built-in 63 RAM, HP Saturn CPU (20-bit, or 5-nibble, 4-bit word), '12Kbits' ROM HP-41C Option 001. Built-in 63 RAM, many keys were unlabeled labels so users could write their own function names. HP-41CV ("HP Coconut 5"). Built-in 319 RAM HP-41CX ("HP Coconut 10"). Built-in 448 RAM, time module, extended functions, text editor, advantage module, this info is now entered, so I'm 'archiving' it in this thread HP-41 added.
Xboxes fixed. PlayStations fixed. Not yet sure if Nuon should be just included in the DVD platform ... ... and Tapwave Zodiac to the Palm platform. Sega Pico, 1993, 4th generation, designed for young children (ages 2-8).
Not yet sure if Nuon should be just included in the DVD platform
You may be right. Game Master, 1990?, handheld system by Hartung, Germany. 4th generation.
* CPU: Unknown 8-bit VLSI * Screen: 64 x 64 Low Resolution LCD * Color: monochrome black/white tones Some links : GameMaster FAQ Wikipedia Lots of french and italian clones by Impel, Watara, Delplay, Game Tronic, Videojet, Virella Electronics, Super Game. Can we add a platform for games played through a TV channel like Fetch ?
-edit- And more specific like the game "Hugo Délire" (french game, I don't know if this kind of game has existed in other countries) that was like a little TV show. Every show, two selected persons played the game with the television as a screen and the telephone as a gamepad. Here an example of the game (gaming is from 2:00 to 3:00 and 4.30 to 7:20) : There's a thing called PowerTV, and it seems to be well hidden. But here's something explained about it: www.powertv.com/developers/PowerTVOSDocs.htm, the rest of the site doesn't seem to mention it much at all. And at least Gaijin Entertainment is making games for it: gaijinent.com/projects/index.htm And more specific like the game "Hugo Délire" (french game, I don't know if this kind of game has existed in other countries) that was like a little TV show. I remember this running here as well years ago, though under different name. I'm already against several other odd cases being added here, and games played on TV channel through your phone are one of them (and will hopefully die out as people can play them on their phones much cheaper). iPod - we already have few of these listed under Newton(?) and Mobile platforms. Newton and iPod both use the ARM architecture, they are both by Apple, developers of the newton also worked on the iPod, they both started out as totally different devices than what they ended up as, they both will fit in a pocket, and they share many interface features. adding iPod games to the Newton platform makes at least as much as sense as adding Mac OS X to Mac OS, OS/2 to Win 3.x, and BeOS to Linux/UNIX, probably more.
Oh, and technically its the "Apple MessagePad" running the Newton OS, not actually an "Apple Newton". But everybody calls it an "Apple Newton" and Apple never tried too hard to enforce the name. There are games for the Texas Instruments line of calculators
One platform for all of them should be sufficient. Especially since very few games work only on one model. I don't think any games will work on all models. Some work on as many as 5 models. TI Calculators/Texas Instruments Calculators Suggestion, the edit page and/or the warning area for editors on the infos page should include a notice to be sure to add the hardwares and/or hardware tags for exactly which model(s) the game runs on. These calculators include a BASIC based language but most games are in assembly; mainly because the built-in BASIC shares the resources of the operating system and thus severely limits the game quality. There are alternate operating systems and shells for the different models, there are also alternate kernels, including Linux of course. I will probably look into these later for their relationship to games and tagging purposes. And of course, their are emulators to fully implement TI Calculators on other platforms, including official emulators by Texas Instruments. As the owner and amateur programmer of an Apple II+ and a TI-85, I found the TI-85 to be nearly as capable except for color and sound. Many games for these calculators are just as high quality, or even higher than the original gameboy. Work-a-like clones of Excitebike, Super Mario World, and Ultima V have been created without sacrificing features or gameplay (excluding, obviously, color graphics and sound). The Link's Awakening conversion is pixel perfect. Suggestion, the edit page and/or the warning area for editors on the infos page should include a notice to be sure to add the hardwares and/or hardware tags for exactly which model(s) the game runs on. Notices/instructions would be nice in many things besides the platforms. I doubt the platform pages are checked frequently, so storing platform specific instructions in them has its flaws. In case of the TI calculators, I'd imagine the platform selection would become less strange if the platform name didn't have specific numbers in it, making it more obvious it's for all models. Handheld console with 20 games embedded. www.segaretro.net/ Think it would be best to include it with some generic handheld device platform as game compilation than its own platform. Didn't see anything appropriate in the platform list besides mobile, but that's for phones (and should be kept that way). Tiger R-Zone, I missed it! Ok, I was not totally unaware of the Tiger R-Zone. I'd seen the announcements by Tiger, the plethora of harsh words by critics, and the overwhelming sentiment was it sucked. This all was before its release. I think I may have even suggested to Andrea that is be added (just before it was released) . Then the Game.com was announced to slightly less harsh criticism. I figured the R-Zone had been dropped in favor of the Game.com. Then I find this [b][url=http://www.museo8bits.com/ficha.php%3Fnombre%3Drzone]Spanish page[/url][/b] (Spain Spanish, not Mexican). There was [i]three[/i] variations released from 1995 to 1997. Seems there nearly 30 games for it. There's a bunch of links there too. Anywho, it seems to be an update of the Super Micro idea. But with the added feature of projecting the various layers onto screens (for increasing size and depth of graphics?). One of those links talks about the Gizmondo II also. (I bought a Game.com, its no DS for sure, but it is under appreciated and has some of the same features.) Think it would be best to include it with some generic handheld device platform as game compilation than its own platform.
Agreed. But a totally generic platform might be nice also. There is table top arcade units and pong variants to think about. Quoted from Andrea: I'm not familiar with these platforms but the descriptions indicate than Electron games generally work on BBC but not the other way. Marketing wise, there are "Electron" only games. Despite the label, many work on the BBC, but some don't:BBC Micro and Acorn Electron are quite compatible each other (stairwaytohell.com) so I was thinking to merge the two platforms. Quoted from stairwaytohell: There are similar platforms in UVL already. Such as Commodore 128 (C64 game usually work), Apple ][gs (][e games usually work), Windows (DOS games sometimes work). But these all deal with 'upgrades'. The Electron is a 'downgrade' in the sense that a full functional computer design was stripped of it's rarely used features (in theory, not used for games, but removing scrolling seems rather anti-game) and no added game features took their place. Atari 8-bit was scaled down to the Atari 5200, but then game specific features were added to the 5200. If the platforms are merged, I think it would be very important to mark games for hardware specific compatibility (upcoming hardware info, temporary tags) in addition to recording the official marketing information in the main description. Sarting with, the Electron games all getting an Electron hardware entry and tag, and all the BBC game likewise marked BBC.WIZZY'S MANSION, 1984, £7.95 Stated compatibility: Electron Actual compatibility: Electron Quoted from stairwaytohell: I gather from this quote that the Electron was meant to play BBC cartridges the way the Amstrad GX4000, Atari XEGS, or Commodore GS were intended to do. But, Electron of'en don't.Nearly all but the very earliest Acornsoft releases have Electron-specific versions, most of which have to avoid the ROM and do their own stuff. Which makes a bit of a mockery of the whole Electron design (ie, maximum BBC ROM compatibility irrespective of the end result), but there you go. The main problem is that in any of the 80-byte pitch modes the Electron's CPU is effectively going at about 0.49 Mhz when running programs in RAM, less than a quarter the BBC's, and there's no real hardware scroll. Switching to one of the 40-byte pitch modes ups the CPU to 1 Mhz, but you're still without any of the CRTC flexibility. Per-release ownership is important to have when some platforms get merged, as I've mentioned quite a few times. | |||
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