It was suggested by Zerothis that the giant monsters tag (think Godzilla, King Kong, etc.) should be replaced by titans. And now with Slave Zero, this Titan variant would conveniently cover this case as well as it isn't really a monster.
Anyone have any thoughts on if titan would actually be clear on that or should we consider something else to cover these insanely large creatures?
If we go with titan, then we'd have both titans and titanprotagonist to cover games that generally have them and where the protagonist is one as well. Giant monsters would then be described with both titans
and monsters tags.
Personally titan produces images of gigantic
humanoids in my mind, but I may have been spoiled by Might & Magic series which repeated this concept over and over again. But now later on it has started seeming like a good idea. Still, this seems unusual so I'd appreciate on any thoughts (or alternative solutions) on the issue.
Titans are from greek mythology. I also associate titans with huge human-looking mighty creatures (which could also be called just "giants"), but not monsters like Godzilla or King Kong. For these creatures a tag giantmonsters is better suited. If you ask me we don't need a tag "titans" at all. If there are titans from greek mythology then the tag greekmythology fits well. Considering right now there are two tags for giant monster (one singular and one plural) it would be more urgent to make it only one tag.
I associate titans with huge humanoids too.
to me, giantmonsters fits well with any not-human like huge creature.
Oh, right.. I also associate titans with the massive warmachines in WH40k (called titans and biotitans).
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to me, giantmonsters fits well with any not-human like huge creature.
Even gigantic robots like Slave Zero? Or should we assume mecha (and robots) covers all sizes, as in, there's no extra descriptors to identify them? I certainly won't go tagging games with such with giant monsters, no matter how huge they are. This is the problem I have with keeping giant monsters, and the fact that it doesn't fit with gigantic humanoids.
It could be generalized as giants, but I feel that to be inadequate (even an abnormally tall human [say... 2.2 meters] could be called giant in this context). Of course, we could limit it by saying the creature must be at least twice its normal height/length to apply or something. But things like Godzilla would still feel like they'd belong to completely different league. And what would be the size barrier for robots in this case anyway?
The tag mecha would fit well with your description of Slave Zero. And mecha are generally quite huge.
Not always, some can be even very close to human size (barely twice their height). And usually this is where they're limited. Mecha I've already used, but it doesn't tell much of the size.
aren't titans supposed to be large and God like creatures, where everything else are just giant monsters?
The "original" titans were the old Greek gods who were overthrown by the new Olympian Gods, Zeus & Co. Dunno much beyond that. Supposedly they weren't any different from humans in their appearance than the Olympians.
Thinking on this a bit more, maybe
gigantic creatures and redirect giant monsters and giant robots to it. This would work nicely as gigantic protagonist as well. That, or overload giant monsters... but I'd also like to avoid the giant monster protagonist this would "require".
The monster part is actually what I dislike the most, as it sort of implies presence of monsters, even if there are none (although one might argue that any creature or construct of such size would be "monstrous").
well they had some like the cyclops and other monsters of the like.
Apparently Cyclops were unrelated to titans ("a race of giants"). And the monsters were children of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna_(mythology)]Echidna[/url] mostly, AFAIK, and I don't know if she was just a monster herself or actually one of the titans.
The race of giants Cyclopes is the more famous one, the Odyssey probably help secure this idea. Originally Cyclopes was the sons of Uranus and Gaia. making them sons of titans (like the rest of the olympian gods were).
The giant humanoid association comes from the giant statues of the Olympian Gods (descendants of titans) that
could be depicted as 'life sized'. The monster titans weren't just 'larger than life' they were
too large for life. The earth, moon and wind were Titans, how you you make a life sized sculptures of those? You can see where organised religion would have a motive to kill them off in favor of 'approachable' idols. However, some titans seem to have always been depicted as giant humaniods, such as Rhea (but Rhea is alternatively a daughter of titans instead of a titan, also).
the titans:
Oceanus, not humanoid, at most, he is the sea, or alternatively he is a river the size of the sea. 2/3 of the planet's surface. BIG
Tethys, not humanoid, all the non-Oceanus water on the planet, BIG
Hyperion, not humanoid, the sun or father of the sun. Probably big, but unknown
Theia, cow-eyed, mother of the sun. Probably big, but unknown
Coeus, Olympian sized to giant humanoid (2.5–3 meters) sized.
Phoebe, same size as Coeus
Cronus, "horned", big enough to lift Mount Parnassus
Rhea, Olympian sized
Mnemosyne, probably the same size as Themis
Themis, normal to Olympian sized, could fit inside the temple of delphi
Crius, not humanoid, Goat like
Iapetusm, unknown
So actually its about 50/50
children of titans:
Eos, olympian to normal
Helios, the sun, not humanoid (alternatively portrayed as steeds, bulls, and horses), BIG
Selene, the moon, not humanoid, BIG
Leto, probable humanoid sized
Asteria, spent some time as a wolf or wolf-humanoid
Atlas, humanoid, larger than the earth, and the sky, and the 'celestial sphere' (stars) around it (ancient Greeks considered this sphere to be quit small compared to modern science), BIG
Prometheus, slight larger than normal humanoid (2.5–3 meters), purposefully created to look 'lesser' than all the other titans to mask his superior skill at being a smart ass.
Epimetheus, unknown
Menoetius, olympian to slight larger than normal humanoid (2.5–3 meters), not human in appearance however.
So this actually favors gargantuan non-humanoid titans, but only slightly
other titanish beings:
Uranus, the sky, it took Hyperion, Coeus, Crius, and Iapetus to forcibly immobilize Uranus, BIG
Gaia, the Earth, BIG
Hecatonchires, "hundred handed ones", titans of impossible size.
Ophion, giant serpent-like titan
All in all, there is only a slight favoritisms to gargantuan non-humanoid titans. This, combined with the fact I seem to be alone in the suggestion, leads me conclude that Titans is not a great tag for 'big monsters'

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Sanguine# 3 months and 10 days ago (updated 3 months and 9 days ago)You're probably the only one that familiar with the subject. Anyway, I'd rather do away with the giant monsters tag in
some way, but even my own idea seems poor now.
Edit: and I'm apparently contradicting myself by wanting to keep
giant insects even if giant monsters are removed. Guess I'll have to live with them, then :b