Because I see that several Tandy Coco and other magazines that have no scoring system got (re)-added I want to mention that these should not be added. I think we discussed this before somewhere and did not come to a final solution so I kept it for some time. In the meantime I did come to a solution and I deleted them (or better said had overwrite them, because deletion is difficult), because in the end it does not fit and the score is subjective what the editor thinks when reading a text. Also only use normal numbers as issue number and not numbering like "Vol. VII, No. 5", because when you click on this number in the issue list the games won't appear. It breaks the link. Example:
https://www.uvlist.net/game-233219-Pyramix
https://www.uvlist.net/reviews/list/source/179/Vol.%20VII,%20No.%205
However when I deleted the few old non-score reviews I came up with a kind of substitution to retain the information in the game info page via an editor note. So if you want to have it added use the information via editor note like here.
Example: https://www.uvlist.net/game-169486-The+King
So in the end some of the freshly added magazines will be overwritten by me again (when I find new proper magazines with scores to add). Just please don't add more without some kind of scoring system, thanks.
Magazines without scoring system
I have added a warning in the new external review page with a link to this page for details.
Let me know if it can be worded better.
Let me know if it can be worded better.
Can you add the info when you create a new magazine with the "add new source" button? The reviews themselves are not difficult to change for me. Whole magazines are.
The ultimate solution is a non-scoring magazine review category that does not interfere with the rating system (averages etc.). I am not generally against having links to non-rated reviews and magazines implemented, but not when you have to make up a score number purely by interpreting a text in order to not ruin the UVL average scoring etc. Until this has been technically implemented those kind of reviews and magazines should not be included in the current system.
And I finally found the former discussion about non-rated reviews. Its my last post in this thread
https://www.uvlist.net/forum/thread/195482/
The ultimate solution is a non-scoring magazine review category that does not interfere with the rating system (averages etc.). I am not generally against having links to non-rated reviews and magazines implemented, but not when you have to make up a score number purely by interpreting a text in order to not ruin the UVL average scoring etc. Until this has been technically implemented those kind of reviews and magazines should not be included in the current system.
And I finally found the former discussion about non-rated reviews. Its my last post in this thread
https://www.uvlist.net/forum/thread/195482/
Info text added.
Having a non-scoring category could lead to various unwanted side effects, I'll give it a try in the next days.
I will use The Rainbow as a test bed.
Having a non-scoring category could lead to various unwanted side effects, I'll give it a try in the next days.
I will use The Rainbow as a test bed.
The "no score" magazine should be fully supported now.
I think I've considered all the use cases, the averages are right, etc.
When you select a magazine of this type a score of 0 is automatically inserted, I didn't want to make that field mandatory only in certain cases.
If you notice anything strange let me know here.
I think I've considered all the use cases, the averages are right, etc.
When you select a magazine of this type a score of 0 is automatically inserted, I didn't want to make that field mandatory only in certain cases.
If you notice anything strange let me know here.
Thanks. I will check it out in the next days. I feel an urge to "revisit" some magazines that I put onto my documented "obmitted magazines" list because of no scores. But first I will go through "The Rainbow" as testbed and also to re-add the Editor notes as normal reviews I think.
Little bug:
https://www.uvlist.net/reviews/issues/179
--> At the top rated games the "view original review" links are not at the right place.
As I said I will add non-score reviews as good as I can but with foreign language magazines its not so easy to recognize a text as a review. So I will use the motto "if in doubt leave it out".
Different topic. Is there a reason that the "media" section is no longer updating for over a day now?
https://www.uvlist.net/reviews/issues/179
--> At the top rated games the "view original review" links are not at the right place.
As I said I will add non-score reviews as good as I can but with foreign language magazines its not so easy to recognize a text as a review. So I will use the motto "if in doubt leave it out".
Different topic. Is there a reason that the "media" section is no longer updating for over a day now?
Fix done.
About the page update, internal cache is not refreshed when the load on the server exceeds a certain threshold, and is happening in these days.
About the page update, internal cache is not refreshed when the load on the server exceeds a certain threshold, and is happening in these days.
The "no score" magazine should be fully supported now.
I think I've considered all the use cases, the averages are right, etc.
When you select a magazine of this type a score of 0 is automatically inserted, I didn't want to make that field mandatory only in certain cases.
If you notice anything strange let me know here.
I think I've considered all the use cases, the averages are right, etc.
When you select a magazine of this type a score of 0 is automatically inserted, I didn't want to make that field mandatory only in certain cases.
If you notice anything strange let me know here.
Thank you and sorry for any disruption I caused.
You're welcome, and there's absolutely no need to apologize. The reviews system is now better!
You're welcome, and there's absolutely no need to apologize. The reviews system is now better!
This.
I simply didn't expect this quite old request (which already came up in a forum thread in 2016 about "scoreless reviews") being implemented so suddenly.
A refactoring I did a while ago is why certain types of improvements are easier to make now.
re: Magazines without scoring system
I'm glad non-scoring magazines can be added now, but what about this problem? Is it also resolved yet?
I didn't want to create broken links, sorry. And sure it absolutely would be easier for us if all magazines only ever used a single, simple issue number instead of separate volume number and issue numbers, let alone using Roman numerals instead of ordinary numbers. But unfortunately they don't.
So any magazine that's been around longer than a year, and uses volume numbers, is going to have multiple issues with the same issue number.
Can we possibly create a new field in the system/database for volume numbers? If we have to use ordinary numerals (rather than the industry norm of Roman numbers) to make volume numbers work without creating broken links, then that's what we'll have to do I guess.
Also only use normal numbers as issue number and not numbering like "Vol. VII, No. 5", because when you click on this number in the issue list the games won't appear. It breaks the link. Example:
https://www.uvlist.net/game-233219-Pyramix
https://www.uvlist.net/reviews/list/source/179/Vol.%20VII,%20No.%205
https://www.uvlist.net/game-233219-Pyramix
https://www.uvlist.net/reviews/list/source/179/Vol.%20VII,%20No.%205
I'm glad non-scoring magazines can be added now, but what about this problem? Is it also resolved yet?
I didn't want to create broken links, sorry. And sure it absolutely would be easier for us if all magazines only ever used a single, simple issue number instead of separate volume number and issue numbers, let alone using Roman numerals instead of ordinary numbers. But unfortunately they don't.
So any magazine that's been around longer than a year, and uses volume numbers, is going to have multiple issues with the same issue number.
Can we possibly create a new field in the system/database for volume numbers? If we have to use ordinary numerals (rather than the industry norm of Roman numbers) to make volume numbers work without creating broken links, then that's what we'll have to do I guess.
It is resolved. Again from the standpoint that this is not resolved technically, but from how to workaround it. Vol VII issue 5 is issue 78. I just count the number of issues from the first one. Since colorcomputerarchive has them all without gaps it was easy. Its not a too uncommon situation. I remember that "Atari ST User" had this http://www.atarimania.com/atari-magazine-atari-st-user_17.html Started with Vol x issue y numeration and switched to normal numeration after a few years. The switch happened around issue 50 or so and thus for me the other magazines could clearly be interpreted as 1-49. By giving the release month it should not be too difficult to make out the correct Vol./issue number if you want to search for it on sites like archive.org I think.
@Andrea: You can remove the text about not adding no score magazines in the "add new magazine" page. (And year slider to 2024 on main page please).